What will happen to current fcip employees

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The Space Hour. Your Turn. More Audio Shows. Federal Insights. Executive Briefings. Industry Analysis. Federal News Network Staff July 15, pm. Several posters have asked, but the debaters rage on Will it be expected some protocol will be issued to address those already in process or being placed on hiring lists for postings that have expired before this FCIP ending business even came about?

Scout "From now until the end of the world, we and it shall be remembered. We few, we Band of Brothers. For he who sheds his blood with me shall be my brother. I'm here to set the record straight, tell the truth about federal hiring, and to expose things for what they really are.

Just to mention this, our old friend David Dean who is a forum member here under the name "David Dean" is largely responsible for bringing the FCIP down. After doing a little digging it's apparent that he was also partially responsible for bring down the Outstanding Scholar Program as well.

Department of Agriculture and Olson v. Department of Veteran's Affairs, the MSPB determined it is unlawful to use the Outstanding Scholar hiring authority and, by implication, the Bilingual Bicultural authority without applying veteran's preference. Here is David Dean discussing his compassion for those near the end of their hiring process under the FCIP who had the positions canceled on them: "The Columbia, South Carolina, Regional VA Office is going to have to fire 8 illegally hired employees and re-run the job.

As luck would have it the unemployment office is down the street. Somebody so kindly PM'd me a copy of the executive order If anyone wants to bash the plaintiffs who sued, there are two other threads with pages and pages of the bashing How bout we have a neutral thread? Section 8 addresses what will happen to current appointees: Sec. Prior Executive Orders. Any individuals serving in appointments under that order on March 1, , shall be converted to the competitive service, effective on that date, with no loss of pay or benefits.

So does this mean that those of us who haven't started by March 1 are S. Or is the speculation that if we have our EOD by then we are safe, correct? The boat some of us are in that are concerned is that we are being hired under an FCIP position that was posted and closed over a year ago.

Our rumored EOD would officially be March 7 for training, with our arrival on campus probably scheduled a day or two prior. Should we be concerned? Or would they possibly just bring us on a week earlier to not have to forfeit the probably 40 or 50 people in the pipeline? Or do we just not know yet? Anybody highered under FCIP can now have there job contested by a veteran filing a lawsuit that the veteran did not have equal access to applying to the job and were discriminated against.

Dean provides a example of how this happened to 8 people highered under the VA's FCIP program and were since terminated because of lawsuits brought up by veterans since they were discriminated against under FCIP not applying veterans preference the right way. This is a huge landmark victory for veterans and will allow them to be given past compensation for being discriminated against under FCIP. It will be up to the courts to decide how many people are terminated who are currently in FCIP since these veterans are still intitled to be given reconsideration for these same jobs they were discriminated against.

Yes, we get that. With all due respect you're posting it every chance we get. Fedscope does not provide a breakdown of specific Schedule B appointment types, but the majority of them traditionally were for FCIP. What I found was not encouraging. When Pathways was introduced in , total hiring continued to drop. We cannot show direct causation between problems with Pathways and decreased hiring, but the curve definitely moved in the wrong direction in and fell off a cliff in succeeding years.

Last year the government hired less than one tenth the number of employees it hired in these programs just five years ago. The drop in under hiring presents many long-term problems for the government. None of those are good outcomes.